You may remmber when few years ago I have proposed HaT produce 1:72 Mexican Revolutionaries? "HaT Line drawings of Mexico Revolutionaries 1910-1930?"

This proposal had been received quite well, nearly 20 users declared buying such sets, many sets each.

HaT is already producing Mexican/Latinoamericas Federales (=China Warlord) in the guise of
HaT Set 8292 British Infantry (Early)
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=2102
and HaT Set 8272 WWI British Cavalry
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1937


Few years fast forward and recently Italieri give a hint they probably will produce well armed Zapatistas/Pancho Villa in sombreros (dismounted?):
https://www.facebook.com/ItaleriModelKit/posts/1209845639088054
since such set had won in their FB voting (also a tip for HaT about popularity!):
https://www.facebook.com/ItaleriModelKit/posts/1202283683177583

Still no poorly armed peasant Mexican revolutionaries. Or any other peasant revolutionaries. At all.

And such sets would sell by dozens, since peasant revolutionaries army are usually numerous.

So I started to reworking my old idea:



And done something like this:



I think it would be better then previous set as much more universal. From 1900 till 1980. From Latin America, Wild West, Spanish Civil War, Africa De- & Colonisation, Middle East (Lawrence of Araby), Back Of Beyond, India, China Civil War (anti-warlordism included), Far East (Vietnam, Malaysia), pulp included.

All poses have to be evenly poor. No well-armed/well equipped. No officers or nobles, please, as it reduces multiposeablity.

"Without-one-arm" pose helps with convertability (f.ex. putting ponchos). It allows to create f.ex. whole squads of macheteros or dynamiteros without repeating poses. Remember You can slightly rotate the heads to add diversity!

Open hand is extremely useful. Civilian dancers. Running and playing futball. Guitarist. Surrendering and prisoners. Gun, mortar and MG operators. Leaders (commisars, mufti) giving a speach.

First guy can be easily converted to flag bearer.

Of course the box could be twice as big as I've proposed: 8 body sprues and 16 heads sprue. (Still I would have to buy dozens of boxes.)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/103123544@N07/31879659464/in/dateposted-public/

What do You think? Esp. regarding items with question mark? AK47 would work with those primitive "uniforms"??

Arab wouldnt work so well since You would have to convert coat... Not to difficult but still...

I would support it even through crowdfunding (but keep the prices low, pretty please).

Can't disagree with this. Bring it on.

Note some time ago, I had proposed a set of civilian-dressed Napoleonic militia figures of generic nationality, to fill a gap for civilian militia required to adequately represent such militia in Europe (Prussian, Austrian, Spanish) and in North America (Canadian and US for War of 1812).
There are somewhat useful figures existing in various sets but typically only a few figures per set. Strelets has a set of US militia figures but their typical Strelets style stands to be improved on significantly. HaT would be filling a noticeable gap here. These figures would probably be useful for pretty much all 19th C conflicts including US Civil War. Perhaps also useful as Boer commandos in a pinch. I imagine Spanish American War uses as well. It's almost endless!

Cheers.

the peasants are revolting.... no, really, they are pretty revolting...

Awesome!! I would commit to 20 boxes under a crowd-funding scenario.

This represents something fresh and new, and opens a world of wargaming possibilities.

Regards,
Andrew

Thank You!

In case anyone wonder if such set could work, here are examples of HaT master work:

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=2093

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1476

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1455

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1448

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=2273

http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Review.aspx?id=1938

So yes, its technically possible.


Oh, and it wouldn't be difficult to convert such militia with pikes, like some chinese warlords did.

Nice idea.

I might be tempted to such a set.

This is a great concept which, as you say, HäT have already used in earlier sets so why not give it a try?

I know I could use two boxes of these for the Spanish Civil War, the Sino-Japanese War, and possibly WW1 Balkans troops.

I'd suggest to leave the assault rifle out.

Scrap the Lewis add a Madsen LMG and a Mondragon...add a Kepi for minor South American armies, personally I think it would be better to concentrate on South American and do a seperate East Asia set

First of all, I was thinking about Mauser rifle, since it was ubiquitous.

Secondly, I am definitely against scraping Lewis Gun. It is essential for this period.

Users of Lewis Gun have much bigger wargaming potential (China, Mexico and half of Latin America, Russia, Commonwealth, Tibet etc):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_gun#Users

I was considering Madsen. But Madsen users are less wargamingable:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madsen_machine_gun#Users
Yes there is Paraguay. But these militia do not have leather equipment! So it rather wont work for Paraguayan army!

So after consideration IMO Lewis Gun is much better option on precious sprue space then Madsen, I am so sorry. Still, maybe placing Madsen instead of Ak47 would be worthy to consider.



Thirdly, we cannot hope for separate sets for every militia (Latin America, SCW, Middle East, Back Of Beyond, China). I doubt we would gather enough support. I am afraid HaT wouldnt risk producing such set.

But one universal militia? In 1:72 most people cannot recognize any differences in cloth of 1910-1960 century poor peasant of warm climat: China, Mexico, Cuba, Middle East, Southern Spain, Armenia, Dark Africa, Far East, etc. All of them wore comfortable long loose trousers, long sleeved loose shirt, sandals, bag. Ammo belt. Maybe rolled blanket/coat/rice bag. Definitely NO leather military pouches. The only difference visible in 1:72 is headdress. That was premise of such design. The same bodies, different headdress. Its efficient, its sellable in mass quantities. HaT cannot lose on such set.

I doubt if such no leather military equipment militia cold work for any army, including Latin America. Even Paraguay. How such "concentrated on South America" set could work for armies and revolutionaries of Mexico, Paraguay and Bolivia? That's impossible.

I think we could try in the future to gather support for different set - typical 1910-1950 warm climat army: putees, universal leather equipment and ammo pouches. With choice of headdress like: kepis, caps, straw hats, different helmets. For China Warlords, Federales, Iranians etc. It's doable. If You point me photos of armies you would like to unify (the more simillar armies of many diffrent countries the better chance such project succeeds), I will try to draw such set for You. But is not the set we are gathering support now.

So I am afraid I have to respectfully disagree with You.

I would be in for maybe half a dozen boxes of these. I do agree that maybe the assault rifle is a waste considering the time period of the other weapons, but not a deal breaker. I can always use spare aks for convervsion purposes.

It will be short - I want that miniatures! :)

Great idea, very useful set I'd buy 5-6 boxes if released.