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Well its been all talk and no action for a long long time. Pretty much given up on this company. I painted a huge number of Sassanid infantry then started waiting and waiting, Then I painted a huge Late roman army to pass the time and give the Sassanids someone to fight.... Still waiting and waiting. Its all talk so far as i can see. If hat is going to do an ancient army please release the whole thing at once or at least enough to make a playable force. How long will we wait for the elephants and Cataprachts another two ++ years! Assuming the other cav ever stop processing (? what ever that means) and ship. I've bought at least 100 boxes of hat products. Why do I even check the website any more? Forlorn Hope I guess
Buy the Goths and Huns, at least that way your Late Romans will have someone to fight. Years ago Ceasar Miniatures released Ancient Asyrians and I held off on buying them until I learned that Hat were also going to make an Asyrian range. So I ended up buying both ranges and even the excellent Siege Tower and Battering Rams. Now quite a few years on and there is still no viable enemy.
How have I handled the problem of the Assyrians not having any traditional enemies? My first assumption back in the days when the Assyrian armies were running rampant and Nebuchadnezzar was destroying them most of their enemies wore similar battle dress which makes it easy.
From what is available at present, from Ceasar Miniatures many of the Hebrew Warriors look to be contemporary and in Arab Camel Raiders and Bedouin the double mounted Camel troops are fine but at only 2 to a box an expensive option. From Hat the Assyrian Allies are the best bet since these were conquered people pressed to fight for their former enemy. However, I would still like to see a different 4 horse chariot for these, rather than changing the crew figures of the Assyrian examples. Also the Egyptian infantry of this period were different from those of 400 years earlier and they were by now using 4 horse chariots. I am using the old Airfix Fort Sahara appropriately painted in sand/mud brick colour for this period (I know that the doors should probably be rectangular rather than arched but since this model can be used right up to WWI and probably beyond I overlook this minor detail.
I have enough unpainted sets that I am not clamouring for new ancient sets just yet (French infantry for my Naps though, now they are needed, and STILL not appearing...)
That's what I did. Bought enough to make an Assyrian and a Babylonian army to fight each other. Of course, I was doing DBA, so that doesn't take an enormous number of troups.
With the price of plastic it is also easy to make full sized wargame armies the big difference being all of the extra painting needed to complete them.
I would be for more sets from the Antike era generally, I cant say whether or not they would sell enough to justify them but there are many possibilities Neo/Babylonians/Hittites, Aramaeans, Medes etc.. perhaps a poll is in order....
In the meantime complete the Sassanids and give the late Romans a worthy opponent...
Assyrian allies work well for Uratians and Assyrian troops can double as Babylonian Household troops.The bulk of the Babylonian troops had a different dress and the greater part of their armies were composed of Chaldean and Elamites.
The Elamites also had unique chariots that looked more like battle taxis.
One day when all of the existing sculpts become a reality it would be nice to see some focus back into the biblical age. In the meantime I happily buying up loads of reissues.
Thank you for the update, and your commitment to fast-tracking the sets currently in the pipeline. HaT certainly continues to have my support.
Very much looking forward to all the new releases.
Looking at some of my army lists all you need for a basic Sassanid Persian army are the Clibanarii and Light cavalry. All of the extra's are optional. Looking at Sassanid Persian artwork the Clibanarii mounted on the fully caparisoned horses are from the early period and could do double duty if painted right as cataphracts.
There are a few discissions online about pimping up the old Atlantic chariots.
It wasn't caesar that reissued the egyptian chariots from Atlantic. That was done by Nexus, I believe and maybe someone else? Waterloo 1815?..
In any case, the Caesar chariots look nothing like the "one man fits" chariots from Atlantic.