Hi all, as fall is almost here, I just wanted to give a heads up that Milwaukee's local kiteboarding shop has just started carrying Hotline wetsuits. We reached out to Hotline as they make a great product that has been praised by anyone we've met who's had one and love the design & build quality. Our Hotline rep, Canadian shops, and the local guys who have them already say the 5/4 is plenty warm for our conditions and layering the thermal long sleeve is a great combo for the most extreme. Feel free to email us as adventurekiteboarding@gmail.com or check out the suits at http://www.adventurekiteboarding.com/category_s/1938.htm