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Re: Re: Pat Robertson: The end of the world is coming

Please let me know when I have claimed such things, I will be curious to know.
Your debating skills are getting worse and worse. Your strategy is to deny me any chance of knowing your motives behind all the groundless accusations you have made so far.

I won't advise to see you a psycholog as I don't believe you will take my advice seriously.
However if everything you wrote in your posts are not a kind of game, or a set of tricks to confuse a debater, I would say you are affected by schizophrenia: A sense of delusion (losing touch with reality) and disorganized thinking and speech.

I didn't keep track of all the accusations so far, but I did notice that you acted as if I was a kind of extremist in the worst sense of the term. Every time I am asking you why you think that way, you avoid replying to my questions by making brand new accusations.

It's getting to a point where your next comments are becoming predictable. One thing is sure: It will be hateful. Maybe you will try to find a mental disease that could fit your imagination.
Maybe if I keep replying to your comments, you will come to assert that I eat human flesh...
Where does it end?

I think we first started to discuss the relevance of global warming and its implications for science, politics, economic prospects etc.

Maybe I will help you by bringing some elements of discussion. Hopefully you will stop making obsessive personal attacks.

Is the Texas A&M University a good source? Here is some material from the department of Oceanography. This is a "critical" approach to the issue where the researchers are trying to see if the evidences are strong enough to be considered

Here is the trend in global average surface temperature (Source: University of East Anglia)

http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/resources/oceanography-book/evidenceforwarming.htm

1> Where do we get our information?

On land, temperature is measured a hundreds of weather stations, somewhat unevenly distributed around the world, and on some oceanic (source: NOAA National Climate Data Center.)

At sea, we get data from satellites and from ships. Satellite measurements of surface temperature come primarily from the Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer (AVHRR) first launched in 1978 and operated continuously since then. The satellite data are calibrated using ship observations of surface temperature from the same time and place. Accuracy of the combined ship and satellite data set, the Reynolds Optimum Interpolation Sea-Surface Temperature maps is about +- 0.3 degrees C on a one-degree (horizontal) grid.

Data from the AVHRR are available with horizontal resolution of about 1 km. Such maps show much more detail than the Reynolds maps. For example, look at a map of sea-surface temperature in the Gulf of Mexico produced by the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Ocean Remote Sensing Group.lick on a few of the thumbnails to bring up the image.
How was the map made?
What problems might we have if we tried to determine average temperature of the ocean before satellites were available, by using data from ships?
To learn more, look at the sample images of the Gulf Stream.

Before 1978, all observations at sea were made from ships using thermometers to measure water samples collected in buckets (bucket temperature) or to measure water drawn into the ship to cool the engines (injection temperature). Approximately 185,000,000 observations have been collected, evaluated, and tabulated through the International Comprehensive Ocean Atmosphere Data Set (ICOADS) for the period 1784 to 2002. The data set is the monthly summaries of the observations. The monthly time series are available at 2-degree (1800-2002) and 1-degree (1960-2002) spatial resolutions. Very few observations are available before about 1850, and most are from 1900.

For more information on measurements of water and air temperature at sea read the page on measurements of sea surface temperature in Climate Change 2001: The Scientific Basis by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Sources of error.
Several sources contribute errors to the plot of earth's surface temperature temperature.

One important error is due to the large variability in the the land and ocean temperature from region to region and month to month. Temperatures on land vary up to approximately 15-20 degrees C during the day at mid latitudes, and by up to approximately 50 degrees C from summer to winter. Over the oceans, the range is much smaller, approximately 7 degrees C from summer to winter.

That's all for today, you can read the whole website for more information.

Sailom

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